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Written by noah   
Monday, 11 July 2011
It appears to me that members of the LDS Church have an easy time talking about all the positive things that have happened in the LDS Church, but not only do they have a hard time discussing the negative events or times where bad choices were made, they basically refuse. Why does this tend to be the case? I think that its very freeing to admit that people make mistakes and discuss them openly, it would enable the church to not have to defend themselves as much in my opinion if they were the first to note the issues.

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1. Examples please
I'm just wondering, what "bad choices" are you referring to? Are these bad choices of individuals in the church or bad choices of the church as a whole? We as individuals do constantly make mistakes and if we have any integrity at all we own up to them. Even our church leaders have each individually made many mistakes and they freely admit them. However, I cannot think of any decision made by the unanimous vote of the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles that would be considered a mistake. Yes, policies and proceedures change from time to time but that does not mean they were wrong, it just means they are no longer the best for the church at the time. So, please, let us know what specific mistakes you are talking about and we can discuss from there.
Art Sherwood
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07-11-2011 20:58
2. No one likes to air dirty laundry
Show me the Catholic that wants to air the hundreds of millions of men, women, and children slaughtered in the Crusades or the inquisitions. Find me a Protestant that want's to talk about the New England Witch hunts.  
 
No one of any group want's to air the dirty laundry of the past. I many cases people flat out don't know about the less then perfect histories of there faith.  
 
The Church does not have to live in the mistakes of the past to be a active and productive faith. The only people that care about negativity are the Anti's that seek to do nothing but hurt people.  
 
I know the past and I look at the good and let the Antis focus on the negativity and evil.
LDS Guy 1986
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07-11-2011 21:01
3. People make mistakes - God doesn't
I'm going to agree with Art and Patrick. 
 
The Church does not make mistakes. But people in the church do. Some people claim that the church was at fault with the Mountain Meadows, but recent studies done by historians show that the Church was not involved. Individual people - including some local church leaders were at fault - but the Church has been exonerated. 
 
Jesus led a perfect life. He did not make mistakes when He lived on the earth. He leads His church today. He does not make mistakes. Men do. God does not.
jett
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07-11-2011 21:08
4. People make mistakes - God doesn't
I can agree with all three comments to a certain degree. I am not an anti-Mormon in any way. I actually have been attending lds church for 2 years but am not a member. I think my question was geared towards individuals. I know that each individual has to make his or her own choices, but I do feel that there is a lot of pressure to always look worthy. With the temple and sacrament and everything being centered on whether you are worthy to go I think that members lose sight of the grace that is provided at times. Not everyone of course but just an observation I have seen. I just know that there is freedom in Christ and there is a freedom that allows each of us to be open and honest before our brothers and sisters in Christ. Just my point of view after living in Utah for the past two years. Maybe part of this has to do with the saturation of Mormons in the area, it's almost like your under a microscope and everyone is watching. Thanks for your thoughts!
noah
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07-12-2011 07:06
5. Individuals and the past
Members are encouraged to not go into detail with past transgressions while give talks or lessons. The Church does not want the dirty details of previous indiscretions to taint or lessen the Spirit.  
 
Through the atonement those transgressions are washed away through repentance and forsaking those sins, so there is no need to reminisce on the faults of the past.  
 
When counciling an individual you can be more open about mistakes of the past to show that you understand what they are going through and help them find the strength to resist evil, but once again no graphic or detail explanation is encouraged.  
 
We are looking to the future not to the past, as the old saying goes you are bound to trip over everything in front of you if you are constantly looking behind you.  
 
We are to do our best to live worthy at all times and allow grace to fill the moments when we do not. Grace is not a license to excuse immoral behavior though the deceiver tries and convince people that such is the case.
LDS Guy 1986
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07-12-2011 10:08
6. 'Utah' Mormons
I do think that there is a difference between some utah mormons and other mormons. there are a lot of lds members in utah and so sometimes that can affect people. but yes, many people feel pressure to be worthy and so they don't like to talk about the mistakes they have personally made. no one is perfect, and that is why we have the atonement so we can repent.  
some people won't be willing to talk about mistakes they have made. but many are. because after trials, mistakes, and repenting is usually when testimonies are developed.
Whitney
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07-30-2011 08:00

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